The Myth of Perfection Is Killing Your Peace, Choose Truth Instead

In a world that rewards hustle and highlight reels, what does it mean to live your spirituality rather than perform it? Dr. Sandra Marie sits down with Justin Egliskis, host of Energy Alignment for Entrepreneurs, to explore stress as a sign of expansion, the loneliness beneath online “belonging,” and why authenticity, not perfection, is the anchor when life speeds up. Expect practical tools, honest stories, and a reminder that alignment is a relationship, not a destination.

Key Topics

• Performative spirituality vs. lived practice — moving from image to embodiment
• Stress & sensitivity as growth signals — reading friction without self-shame
• False belonging online — why the scroll can mimic community and deepen isolation
• Metrics & meaning — engaging analytics without losing your why
• Practical alignment — mornings, movement, food, fresh air, and phone boundaries
• Judgment & compassion — easing self-criticism to free compassion for others
• Seasons of life — working with contraction/expansion without forcing pace

Practical Takeaways

• Try the 1-hour phone-free morning and notice your baseline calm/clarity.
• When triggered, name the stimulus, breathe, reposition (walk, pause, reset tone).
• Treat stress like a teacher: What skill/process/limit is it pointing to?
• For creators: Check analytics last, intention first. Ask, “Why am I sharing this?”
• Use seasonal thinking: Winter isn’t failure; it’s preparation.

Links

Justin Egliskis

Podcast: Energy Alignment for Entrepreneurs

Email: je.energyalignment@gmail.com

Chapters

• 1:41 The Journey of Podcasting and Passion
• 3:46 Exploring Digital Connection and Isolation
• 10:28 Navigating External Validation and Self-Worth
• 15:27 Understanding Stress Sensitivity in Entrepreneurship
• 20:04 Judgment: Self vs. Others
• 22:58 Growth Through Inner Awareness
• 27:03 The Seasons of Life and Change
• 27:52 Practical Energy Alignment
• 31:30 Balancing Inner Awareness with Outer Action
• 34:52 Living from Honesty, Not Perfection
• 39:37 Deconstructing Old Beliefs with Compassion
• 44:05 Hope for Consciousness and Community
• 46:37 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03.084)
Enjoy this Wild Soul gathering production. I'm Dr. Sanda Marie. Pour yourself a really tall glass of spiritual curiosity and join me for the happy hour for the Spiritually Curious podcast. In the spirit of happy hour, cheers to some new insights, peace, revitalization, and perhaps an aha moment that may change your life.

In a world that rewards constant productivity and performative positivity, true spiritual growth can start to look like another performance. Today, I'm here with Justin Agliskis, host of Energy Alignment for Entrepreneurs, to talk about what it really means to stop performing your spirituality and start living it in business, relationships, within yourself. Together, we'll explore how stress and sensitivity are often signs of expansion, not failure.

how today's internet can create false belonging while deepening loneliness, and how the fear of abandonment plays out in our spiritual journeys. I'm looking forward to having a real and a funny and deeply human conversation today about being human in a world that moves too fast and connects too shallowly. Hey, Justin, super excited to have you in the studio today.

I'm grateful to be here. I love the introduction, the points that we're gonna touch on. They're important. And let's go. Let's just make the most of our time together. Let's rock and roll.

Okay, let's do it. But before we get into the deep part of the conversation, just real quick, what was the driving force that led you to start your podcast, Energy Alignment for Entrepreneurs?

Speaker 2 (01:45.774)
I love the question and I think I just, how I put it in the words is I always had something that I wanted to talk about. And for a while I was saying the wrong things to the wrong people. Then I kind of through this process of being in certain environments and reflecting upon how I felt after leaving those environments,

started to not necessarily isolate myself, but I was alone for a bit. With that alone time, it created space for me to better understand who I am and what I am. Just the power, the energy that I get when I'm sharing, when I'm speaking, it's one of those actions where talking in depth

sharing what really matters. It makes me shine, not as in me, but I feel the glow, I feel the radiance, I feel what it does to my heart when I get into speaking on what matters most to me. So I kind of followed that and just realized, hey, I have to do this. Of course, there many other things that go on in life, but

There are certain fundamentals you can't really skip and sharing the message that's on my heart, think it's super meaningful to me.

That's really beautiful and I think that that's important. A lot of people will talk about passion, what's your passion, and they can't even really put into words what their passion is. But when you feel what you just so eloquently put into words, that emotion, that's your passion. And you went with it wherever it's gonna take you. I feel the same way about the podcast. This was meant to happen and there's no stepping away from it.

Speaker 1 (03:50.636)
Before we jump into stress sensitivity and conscious entrepreneurship, I wanna touch a little bit on abandonment and false belonging. It really feels like it's highlighted today. Your thoughts on how the digital world creates connection on the surface, but isolation underneath.

Yeah, how we look at this, it's almost as if when you try to force something, when you have an idea that you should be a certain way, but you don't question where you got that idea from. When I look at a shallow connection in relationship to a genuine meaningful dance, if you will, there's like

a different smell and taste and flavor where there isn't so much of a motive or a force when you are deeply connecting with others. I'm not here speaking to you with a point that I want to make you see how I see. I'm just here because it happens naturally. you just kind of, how do I put it? The internet

can be so beautiful, but if we live solely on the internet, then we kind of forget, wait, there's those flowers outside of my front door. yeah, it doesn't rain every day. So can I feel when it rains, right? Rather than saying, I wish I was like this person when I see them on liner.

I wish it when it rained today, I wish it was sunny. Like, no, it is how it is. So can we find that beauty? And I just, feel there's so much power and leverage in the internet and we have to be conscious while using it and see it as a tool. It's a tool. It's not everything, right? What do you think?

Speaker 1 (06:00.532)
I totally agree with that and obviously we both have projects where the internet and using these types of media are critical to how we get our messages across and how we're communicating with people. But I love how you talk about not looking at that quick scroll snapshot and really taking a time to pause and feel what else is going on.

around you. So it's actually looking away from the screen to absorb what else is going on. And sometimes when you're looking at the screen with all the scrolling and all the information that's being shot at you, sometimes they think we don't even take a moment to absorb what it is that we've just read. We were looking at the picture, the piece of news that we just learned about because we're so quick to move on to the next. Have you noticed how

social media can actually sort of mimic a sense of belonging, but at the same time, it's really deepening the loneliness.

I have seen that it's almost like an earthquake when you get that moment of, my gosh, I am giving away my energy, my attention, my spirit almost, because I'll notice this, right? I'll come across a new piece of stimulus, whether it be news information, what my friends are, whatever.

My mind, it's almost as if I get sucked into a vortex or a whirlpool. You can feel the power of your identity, right? Your sense of self and all the implications, potential desires or fears. And I notice when I step away from the screens, I have the capacity strengthened to better understand what I'm actually doing.

Speaker 2 (08:10.242)
What's happening? For instance, if I'm scrolling on my phone, it's much harder to snap out of it, but if I'm walking in the woods, I can feel that contrast of, okay, yeah, wow, life feels spacious and free and I'm not all full of desire or ambition or this and that when I'm in the forest.

When I'm on the screens, maybe I start comparing. There can be so many different variables that stem off of my identity. It always comes back to who I think myself to be and everything that stems from there.

Yeah, I would agree. The other thing is you don't use all of your senses. So the next thing I would ask, and I know that I have been guilty of this and, you know, I've had a lot of conversations with myself over it. What do you think we lose when our sense of self depends on external affirmations? Say I drop a clip to a show on Facebook. I have this new project that I'm working on launching called Spiral Rebellion.

and the soft launch has gone with a bunch of posts on Facebook. To be honest with you, I have to admit the first thing I look is to see how many responses did I get to those and what type of responses am I getting? And sometimes if there's no response or depending on the response, it makes me feel like my sense of the work was dependent on the heart or the thumbs up.

when in fact it really has nothing to do with it. It's just a reflection of the response other people are having versus the message that's going out. And what I've come to learn as I've done this, I've started this project launching this in July, is that a lot of the feedback is coming back in very, very, very different ways. And just because there is no emoji response to it, what I've learned is people have been...

Speaker 1 (10:15.8)
taking these in and reflecting with them. And it has had a pretty significant impact on part of the people who are engaging with it that I would never have known if I just stuck to the external affirmation. So what are your thoughts on that?

A lovely topic because part of the game is being open to certain statistical markers, if you will. And then part of the game is understanding, I do this, why? And what we were touching on before is it's that balance, the truth, what I've kind of continuously had cracked.

open in my spirit is how paradoxical the nature of life and beauty is. It invites us to be so dynamic where, yeah, it is important to check the data and the analytics, to be aware. But then if you fall into that trap door, the facade of, I'm only doing this.

or I'm so hinged on the feedback that I get, then you kind of lose that piece that you initially sown, that piece that you initially create through doing what you love. So it's such a tricky, I don't want to use the word battle, but more so an opportunity for us to notice our own triggers, right? I think that's part of what's helped me a lot is

to see where I have friction in life and to look within, there I go again, obsessing over this piece of data, forgetting, like, why did I start? And especially in long-term endeavors, it can be tough because you don't always get results instantly. Right? Come in to continuously remind ourselves of, hey, why did I start? How do I feel when I really am just in the moment creating what I'm creating?

Speaker 1 (12:16.975)
absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (12:28.782)
I'm gonna go 100 % on that. That will be, did I post this post, did I do this to go viral? Or did I do it because I felt that this topic or this message or this piece of information might be something that could make a difference in someone else's life? And the answer after you ask the question is very obvious, but in the moment that quick self-gratification is always nice. With social media, the other thing that I think is really important to

put out there and you touched on this really early actually maybe before we started recording, but you touched on it. It's a lot of it is performative. It's not even the truth. Like the honesty is not there. We're creating, I wish this is what my life really looked like. This is what I can make it look like in this moment, but my day-to-day life, maybe not so much.

being honest about that's one of the, I've really, really been studying marketing the past few years. And it has taken me so much trial in iteration to kind of find how to communicate this in the right way where,

I'm using certain pieces of knowledge to grab attention, but I can feel when I'm overdoing it. Because this is part of the balance. If I record and no one listens, that's still beautiful. But how beautiful could it be if this reaches the right people? Now I trust the timing. I have faith and I walk in faith that it will reach the right people.

Also part of our duty is what are the tactics? How can I grab attention in a aligned way? I love the word alignment because you could grab attention in a greedy manner or in a promiscuous manner, et cetera, or you could grab attention in a smooth way where you're speaking to the right people. Maybe you throw a number in the title.

Speaker 2 (14:43.778)
or maybe use a powerful word or a certain angle. there's such, I just love balance. That's the nature of life. If you look at the leaves, or for example, on my desktop background, I have these flamingos. The texture, the tone in terms of the colors, right? There's pink, but how many different tones of pink are there, right?

Very nice, I love that. Let's move into the core of your work, stress sensitivity and conscious entrepreneurship. For spiritually aware entrepreneurs and creators, how does stress and anxiety sometimes show us where we're expanding versus looking at it as a failure?

Yeah, yeah. I think the loose angle is when I have friction, it's this subtle shift of not why am I acting like that, not why do I feel that way. Sometimes why is a good question, but other times it is as it is. And we are to feel that stress and potentially when we do not resist,

the stress, we can let it teach us. Like, for I'll give you a good little example, maybe it's not super entrepreneurial, but I had dogs, I have one dog now, and I used to have this trigger of when I would walk down the street and other dogs would bark at me, I would feel such friction, get so like just tension in my body. And over time, I just learned, hey, me,

resisting what I can't control isn't going to get the dog to stop barking. Me getting all annoyed at a dog barking at me has no help in getting that dog to stop barking. then if you take that same structure and apply it to your entrepreneurial journey, it's kind of like, hey, maybe I'm not at the financial numbers that I like to be at. Maybe I'm not.

Speaker 2 (16:56.962)
doing this statistic and this statistic, but am I putting in energy? Am I optimizing systems? Am I asking questions with a openness to see my own failures, to come into contact with feedback or criticism without this fighting energy, just with this open energy of, maybe I'm not

perfect, maybe there are things I could do better. Okay, what are they? One of my favorite guys, Alex Hermosy, says something like, do your best. And guess what? Sometimes your best isn't going to be good enough. That's okay. Keep doing your best. And inevitably your best will get better. Right? So it's that sort of mentality for me, I think.

That's great explanation. In your journey, how have you learned to work with sensitivity as a strength instead of something that you have to hide or to fix or not embrace publicly?

Hmm, really good question. I would probably say that it gives me compassion for other people. I like to tell stories. One example would be that if I'm working around guys and we're using heavy machinery and one of them is screaming at me from across the yard. First of all, I'm 10, 20 feet away from him. He has heavy machinery in his ears. It may sound like he's yelling at me.

It may seem my ego may perceive that he's angry at me, that sensitivity I could feel his energy in my own energy. And then I just take a breath in that moment and realize and remember like, he's a human just like me. whatever it is that I may be feeling or whatever it is that others are projecting onto me, can I hold space to not judge them nor myself, not judge

Speaker 2 (19:03.82)
what they're sharing with me and not judge my own reaction to what they're sharing with me. And then in that process of having stillness throughout the day, even in heavy machinery situations, your heart kind of changes. You start to see, okay, that's where he is. And if he treats other people that way, the biggest change I've noticed is that I'm

less judgmental of others behavior. Now not all the time right you'll still have a moment in traffic where I get a little er but then I'll laugh at myself right rather than just going er to the other person I'll just there you go again buddy it's that sort of game I would say.

So you talk about judgment and I think that judgment, being aware of judgment and managing it is super crucial in our growth and our evolution. Do you find it easier to manage your judgment with others or your self judgment?

Hmmmm

I you know like the recycling symbol or like a spiral? I feel it kind of spirals up and spirals back down. It's like this whole vortex coming together where I think you start to learn first with yourself. For me, it was awareness of my own thinking. And well, to be honest with you, a lot of my thinking.

Speaker 2 (20:41.32)
used to be very critical or anxiety-like or fear-like or worry-like. It was a vortex of insecurity, if you will. I had that a lot in my past. I started to pay attention and pay attention and just ask questions. I remember when I couldn't even enjoy the simplest of things anymore at maybe my rock bottom.

It was like my mind was always chattering. And as I started to not isolate myself in an unhealthy manner, but to meditate, to stretch, to be alone with myself more, I started to realize, wait, I'm thinking, but I'm also watching myself think. So what's happening there? Am I the one who's thinking, or am I the one who can watch myself think? As...

continued walking my path it was almost as if the chatter got a little quieter and I realized okay when I do A, B, and C chatter goes up. Okay when I am doing X, and Z chatters hmm not much not not there so much. So through that process of understanding my own self judgment, my own mental chatter, and I can feel it in others. I can feel when

someone is at peace and they're just walking smoothly. I can also feel my past conditioning in other people like, yeah, I had that program, I had that angle. And it's just at the same time though, I wouldn't have wanted anyone to force truth upon me. So I can see, okay, if you're not ready for truth, I'm not gonna tell you.

everything that I've seen in my consciousness, right? If there's not the space there for it, well then, and then I don't judge them for where they're at in their conscious journey, right? I know that's a lot, but I digress.

Speaker 1 (22:46.627)
I'm gonna riff on that a little bit. I think this question jumps on that versus being a repetition. How would you say your personal experience with anxiety that you just described and your inner awareness that you just talked about shapes the way you approach growth overall?

It's a much more patient game now. don't feel as if... See, growth used to be one of those things that I really wanted. Really, really. For example, I woke up at 2.52 a.m. for like 500 days straight, went to bed at 7 p.m., woke up 2.52, meditated 30 minutes, bang, bang, worked out seven days a week.

for 500 days straight. I just got to a point where that taught me so much and now I kind of view life in more of a seasonal perspective where, yeah, is winter bad just because all the trees don't look nearly as good as when they're changing colors? Not necessarily. I wouldn't say winter's bad. Is a certain season better than another? Not really.

when I'm contracting, maybe there's meaning behind that. And maybe when I'm expanding and growing, there's also meaning behind that. And it kind of just helped me to step back and start to enjoy life more. And now, how I'm speaking to you here, it would be beautiful if you were around me every day asking these questions. I would love to answer these questions more. But I take what I have, right?

And therefore, in other environments, I do my best, right? It's kind of just, you can't make it up. You can't make life up. There's so much different variables, so many different sorts of people. You just do your best.

Speaker 1 (24:52.544)
I agree. And I think you answered that really well. And I'm going to digress a little bit as you were talking about the different seasons. So I live in an extremely rural area, doing sort of my own sabbatical from the big city. And what fascinates me about the seasons when you talked about the winter is it's I'm surrounded by forest on three sides. So, you know, it takes an hour maybe to drive into town to get some milk or whatever.

And in the winter, I'll be driving through there and looking up in these hills and stuff. And I'll be like, wow, there's a house up there or, wow, there's a barn or there's some, I never saw that field with the cattle in it before, because in the beauty of the summer, when you have the full bloom and the growth and the trees, that's its own unique beauty, but it gives you a whole different lens of how you're looking.

at the world based on what you're seeing and your perceptions. Living out here each season literally is like living in three different places because it gives such a different lens and a view and the way you look at it and the way you absorb it and the way you perceive it, then you start thinking about it differently and you start managing things differently because it brings different things to your attention. Now that's a digress.

I think that is almost hitting the nail on the head where why else do we have seasons? One of my favorite quotes is the only constant is change and you can't step into the same river twice. Well, sure, same name river, same location, sure, but that water is different even if it feels similar, little different, whether it be the depth.

The volume, the speed, the temperature, there's always these subtle shifts. And I feel that this is what humanity needs, a little bit of that sensitivity to, there's so much beauty, so much that is going on in our world that we do not pay attention to, that we don't notice, right? Because, well, we're.

Speaker 2 (27:14.316)
or tend to be so self-obsessed, right? With, need this status, this title, this amount of money, this, this, and that. I want this, and I love to tie this off here. I have to say, hey, are we human doings? No. Are we human havings? No. we're human beings. Okay, okay. So what does it mean to be? And I feel what we're speaking of

with the sensitivity is exactly what it means to be.

That's great. So you mentioned alignment before. What does energy alignment look like on a practical daily terms, especially when the world feels so chaotic at times?

Yeah, the short answer I would say is sometimes you stand up for something, you stand up for yourself, sometimes you listen to yourself or others, and then sometimes you just gotta walk away. That's the short answer. But, you know, let's say that you're dealing with someone who's angry. You're not gonna be able to get them to listen necessarily while they're angry. So one of the,

tips, I know not a relationship podcast necessarily, but one of the couple tips I have for myself as a rule is if I ever am feeling a bit too fiery, just take a little stroll. Not like, I need to get away from... No, hey, I'm feeling kind of crazy or I'm feeling a little fiery. I'll be right back, all right? Then we can touch base and better understand each other.

Speaker 2 (29:01.238)
I think a lot of the practical spirituality coming into being is awareness of your tone of voice, awareness of the speed, the cadence in which you speak, awareness of the words that you choose to use. And see, this is where I get a little nerdy, but I'm just playing around with that phrase. Paying attention to the implication behind the words that we use.

And also that starts with our thinking, right? So if you can be aware of how you think in everyday life, when someone steps into a room, do you feel their energy? Are you mad at them for the energy that they carry? can you... Okay, energy's changing. The only constant is change. We gotta get good at being flexible and dynamic. I know...

you

Speaker 2 (29:58.316)
Maybe that's not the most practical thing. I'll add a few little more tidbits, and that would be to walk frequently. Fresh air, helps you. Fresh air helps you no matter what the season. Get outdoors. Just to work out. For me, starting my day with a workout, it decompresses me. It gets any friction out of my body at least, and gives me something to put my attention on immediately in the day.

Healthy food, fresh air, awareness of thinking, and they all come together, right? Because if you're eating processed foods, if you're not exercising often, how are you going to be aware of the implication of your words? Man, I don't know. Right? They're so... Yeah, I digress.

All those things are important. Our thoughts, our words, that's how we're creating. That's how we bring things into manifestation. All those things have very important influence and there's so little attention that's paid to them. I'm going to just shift it a little bit. We talked a little bit about chaos and we can get into the time space thing, but that would be a whole different conversation.

I don't know about you, but August felt like it had one week in it for me. was like August started and then August was over. Like everything is moving faster and faster. Other people are also referencing that. So I know it's just not something that's unique and personal to me that I'm feeling. I do do a lot of checking sometimes to make sure it's not just me, that it's more generalized. How does Justin personally balance the inner awareness with the outer action when

Everything seems to be going faster and faster and faster.

Speaker 2 (31:46.028)
Yeah, something I'll say is we move with it or we get dragged by it. In the faster seasons, so I use the word seasons because I've had slow seasons where it just feels like, wow, I'm not being pushed. I'm rolling at my own pace. Everything is very manageable. And then right now for me too, it does feel as if things are just

speeding up. think really prioritizing your morning, that's probably the number one biggest thing for me, is like, wake time and bedtime matter so much because if I am rushing, it's very hard to be peaceful and aware when you're in a chronological crunch, when you're rushing.

So to position myself wisely, something I love to say, I was just telling my friend yesterday, if younger Justin was always putting out fires, but current Justin now positions himself in a way where he doesn't create the wildfires that he used to create. Now, where does that energy go that I used to spend putting out fires that I am no longer creating? And for me, that

is like the concept or the structure of how can I just get one step ahead? Not of others. Not, hey, I want to be better than Joe. No. How can I just be a little bit wiser for myself, for my heart, for the people I care about? I wish it was so, no, I don't wish, that would be boring. But if it was so simple that there was just a single answer of how do we create this space?

but it's like there's plenty of variables and I would say the one cornerstone is how you position yourself. So bedtime and wake time and the little, the moments that you think are small aren't so small. Like if you choose to pick up your phone right after waking up in the morning, see what happens when you wake up and you don't touch your phone for an hour or two or maybe three. See what happens if you change certain

Speaker 2 (34:13.358)
habits in your life, right? Then I don't know, you can feel it though, you can feel it. when time just, when there's a lot of demands and you have responsibilities, I feel it's extremely important for us to position ourselves with intelligence.

I love it. Let's put that challenge out there to the people who are watching and listening to this. Just even the one hour, be really curious the responses that we get for people. Cause the response is going to be unique, literally unique to that person, but there will be some common threads to that for sure. You mentioned honesty and truth a couple of times as we've talked today. Justin, what do you think it means to live from honesty rather than perfection?

Yeah! Yeah!

The little different twists there.

Good, it's good. Practically, the 80-20 rule has been something which I have pinned down. If I'm working on a launch and I'm building a funnel and I'm working on the design of a sales page or something, that's one space, which is the 80-20 rule. But then in my heart, when it comes to deeper matters, this honesty of, hey,

Speaker 2 (35:35.318)
Maybe I have a certain relationship to a stimulus. you've heard, I know so many people are familiar with this idea of a love-hate relationship. It's like, wait, there's pleasure in this thing, but then there's also regret tied to it. Can I bring awareness to that dynamic of, okay, so...

For me, this is where I have that language distinction of, I aligned? Is this meaningful? Or am I chasing shallow pleasure? Right? If I'm indulging in shallow pleasure, there's usually that double-edged sword of, regret. But if I'm working on something meaningful, then it's like I get that juice, that vitality, invigoration of my heart, soul, spirit. It's kind of...

It's that balance. Can I notice that I'm not always doing everything the way that I would want to be doing things, but can I still have compassion and understanding? Not sugarcoating things, so still bringing a little bit of power and strength into, hey, buddy. And that's why I really like working out, because working out's one of those things where it's like, wait, I don't want to...

Come on, come on, you got this, go, do it, you can do it. And then there's other realms or fields where you just, do have to step back. Alan Watts says, you force a key into a lock, you break it. So sometimes you gotta jiggle the key. Honesty is like that too, where, you know, if you're so slicing and dicing, then you're just gonna put yourself into a state of being ashamed.

If you feel regret, regret's a guideline, so feel that thing, But don't get down on yourself. It's such a paradoxical balance where, all right, you make a mistake, you gotta pick yourself up and go right, you're wrong. But can you learn from the wrongs? Yeah, it's dynamic.

Speaker 1 (37:54.426)
For Happy Hour, for the spiritually curious, there's been a little pause probably the last four to six weeks, I would say. just, haven't been producing as much YouTube and audio as we have throughout the year. And I really went through a period of rethinking the whole project, sort of like, how did this come into being? What's the purpose of it? How does it fit in globally with everything that's going and, you what direction to move in it?

And what's really interesting was the bottom line I came back to was exactly the reason that I started it. I'll be honest with you. What started it was I had a couple of interviews that honestly just felt very infomercial to me. Like I almost wanted to raise my hand and say, can I be part of my podcast? Like, can I speak or be part of this conversation? And it really took a moment for me to pause about like, is this what I want the show to be about? But out of that,

has come this new initiative called Spiral Rebellion. It is going to be a podcast also. So I'll be running both of these podcasts simultaneously. They'll play off of each other. The last couple of months, I've just been doing a lot with written, doing a lot of written material with Substack, Medium, Facebook, that kind of thing. So creating on a different level, coming back into it, both projects will run.

simultaneously, I think to the end of the year and then really take their own trajectory. One of the things we're starting with is really, and I think it is paramount. Like I think it is rising to the top of all the work in this particular time that we're living in is about deconstruction and deconstructing old beliefs. How can we stay compassionate with ourselves while deconstructing old beliefs about

success and worth. I just think this is such a huge topic.

Speaker 2 (39:55.406)
How can we stay compassionate with ourselves while deconstructing these old beliefs? I feel that you do have to fundamentally accept that life is about the journey. What does that mean?

You are where you're meant to be. And I know sometimes it can feel like that is so not true. But you are where you're meant to be. And taking a step back to consider that life is beyond your human and it's within your human intelligence and it is also

simultaneously beyond your mind's logical comprehension. Maybe what I would say is just take a second and sit with me when I say this, but you're not consciously beating your heart. You are not consciously beating your heart. And if that is the case, then how many other things are happening that are beyond you? So...

If you have found yourself to have a memory, for example, a memory of when you mistreated someone due to a belief that you see is clearly not true, can you forgive younger you? Yes, you can, but you have to take on a bird's eye perspective. And in the bird's eye perspective, also look at the play of the universe where things happen like...

Animals in nature are eaten and they are sometimes eaten while they're still alive. Sometimes limb by limb, life can be very dramatic, almost like a game or a play. If you can adopt that perspective for younger you, just to have a little bit of compassion, forgive yourself for your grave mistakes, grave mistakes, hey, even

Speaker 2 (42:16.974)
See, this is where one of my friends, challenged me where he was talking, he was questioning me on objective truth. Like, what's objective truth? And he was asking me about like murder and rape. And hey, I'm not going to go and say certain things are okay. I'm going to be honest with you though and say that you have sown seeds and

It's your responsibility to reap the harvest of what you've sown. And if you are to have compassion for yourself, then you can change. Remember the quote, the only constant is change. Have faith that you can change and surrender, have trust, pray, act, make your actions align with your faith. know, faith without works.

is nothing, but if you work and have no faith, that is also a conflict. So we have to walk this, you know, sometimes you dance, sometimes you run, sometimes you walk, but we've got to have that compassion for ourselves so then you can have that compassion for others. I have a quote on my wall and the quote says,

If we can have compassion for each other's blindness, we can learn to forgive ourselves and create a peaceful future. So I think that's a good way to wrap that up.

I would agree those who are able to provide grace for others. think that it's much easier for a person to give others grace than it is for them to give themselves grace. I think that that's an opportunity for many people. What gives you hope about where consciousness, community and creativity are heading next?

Speaker 2 (44:19.682)
Well, we're here, just by the nature of the questions you're asking. I am having a lot of fun, if you will, and it's something, it's more beautiful than fun, but I can just see it throughout at least my life. There are many people whom I come across where I'm a little surprised. like, it is, it's there. People have it. People are peaceful.

Then other times I'm like, what's happening? So what gives me faith? What gives me hope in this conscious change in the community and connection? The fact that we're here and you're asking such good questions, it's really my heart. I'm happy. That's an understatement. But then also in my direct reality,

I'm meeting people and having these connections that I almost could never predicted, I wouldn't have ever expected. then, you know, how do I put it? I wanted to have a relationship for a long time. I'm 26 right now for background. But I knew, I knew from 20 years old that 25, I really, didn't do anything in trying to find a lady, whatsoever.

Because I knew that life is really about you being who you need to be and the people who are meant to enter your life, the conversations that you're meant to have, they will happen. You have to focus on you. And see, this is one of the funniest things. In order for your cup to be overflowing, you have to first fill your own cup. You have to be a little bit selfish in life to be without the self inking up everything you do.

So it's that balance of, I do these things because they help me be free. And with that freedom, then I operate from a certain frequency or vibration. I trust in the things that are not seen but are felt and are very real. And your life manifests in that way.

Speaker 1 (46:40.334)
What do you think? I think that 100 % service to others is as equally as important as 100 % service to yourself.

Yeah, yeah.

They go hand in hand and are equally as important. Justin, if the listeners want to connect with you, how do they do that and what does it look like?

would say the best way to connect with me would be to listen to Energy Alignment for Entrepreneurs. It's a very similar space to what we have done today. Very frequently I'm just chatting solo and I'll also release this episode over there. But besides that, I'm working my main offer, if you will.

is to help people get into better shape. So if you're looking to, I have like a decade of experience in that field, like weightlifting, boxing, and jiu-jitsu. I've been doing jiu-jitsu for two years, boxing for on and off a few years, but weightlifting for 10 years plus. And I just think being in good shape is super important. All natural sort of guy, whole foods, no crazy supplements.

Speaker 2 (47:58.168)
But the big thing I would say is just check out the podcast and hey, if you resonate with me as a person and you do want to get into better shape, there'll be a link in the description for that. I'm so grateful to be here. So grateful to have had this conversation that really the questions, fantastic questions.

Well, thank you. And I'll make sure I get all your information out there. With that, what's next for you? Do you have something like sitting out in your ethers that you're like, I really feel like this is something I might want to dip my toe in at some point.

You know, there's a few of those. There's a few. Business-wise, I am about to start running some static image ads for a low-ticket blueprint. It's called the Greek God Vizik Blueprint. So that's exciting. I've only ran a few ads before. Besides that, I just started building some patios, walkways, doing hardscaping, learning the excavator. So that's kind of cool.

And besides that, in the future, I'd love to get into surfing, maybe have a child or two, but one day at a time and just doing my best, right? There's a lot of different things I'd love to do in life, but this is one of the biggest foundations for me is having these conversations. And it would be really cool to do them at a bigger scale in person and stuff, but for now, just...

It charges me, it fuels me. I know I'm gonna walk away from my computer whenever we get off this and smile on my face, take my dog for a little stroll and hey, I know that's a lot of different things, but hey, that's where I'm at.

Speaker 1 (49:47.31)
That's all good. I'm with you. I get really jazzed energetically after these shows and I think they're important. And I have to tell you, I love hardscaping. The artistry that you can do with it is fascinating and that's a good way to blow off some energy. As we're winding up, do you have any last thoughts for the listeners?

think maybe, let's see, what do you feel, my last thought would come in the form of a question, and that would be, what do you think was like the golden nugget if there was anything from our conversation today? What do you want to leave the listeners with on your end?

Well, for me, the golden nugget that I was feeling was I love that you gave practical tools. I love the tools. I love the turning off of the screens and the computers and being with nature and getting to know yourself. That was a golden nugget for me. I always think that that's super important.

Yeah, no, you can't go wrong. You can't go wrong with that's almost something that I would give to anyone at any stage. Hey, well, as long as you can walk safely, as long as your body's still moving with you, rolling for you, go on a hike. You won't regret it.

Yeah, I agree with you. You talk to nature, nature talks back to you. I think we've proven that spiritual conversations don't have to sound like Ted Talks or Temple Chants. guess that was that was the point I was getting at because you really did speak to it in a real everyday way. Sometimes the most honest thing we can do is honestly laugh at how hard

Speaker 1 (51:31.574)
we are trying to get it right. And I think you touched on that sometimes. And I was sort of giggling inside when you said that, because I certainly have put so much energy in trying to get it right when I realized there really is no it, right? As the world speeds up, the authenticity becomes our anchor. think that's really important because the world's speeding up faster and faster.

Yeah

Speaker 1 (51:58.762)
And authenticity is a great anchor as well as being out in nature. So whether you're an entrepreneur, a creator, or just literally trying to breathe a little easier, would say remember alignment isn't a destination. It's a relationship with yourself as that's what you said. And I would have to concur 100 % with that. Keep showing up, keep listening inward.

That's where the real belonging begins. Thanks Justin for keeping it real. Reminding us that peace is something you live and not perform. think that's huge. And to all our listeners, thank you for taking time to join Justin and myself today. Remember, embrace that wild soul until next time. Thanks Justin.

Thank you for joining us for this episode of Wild Soul Gathering's Happy Hour for the Spiritually Curious. To learn more about our guests, please go to our website, WildSoulsGathering.com. We're very eager to hear from our listeners what you thought of the episode, topics you might like us to cover in the future, your thoughts on spirituality, questions you may have. Please feel free to send us an email at WildSoulsGathering.gmail.com.

This is your host, Dr. Sandra Marie, sending each of you peace and love. Until we meet again, embrace your wild soul.